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Was Joe Harris Snubbed of ACC All-Freshman Honors?

The ACC released their all-conference selection yesterday, wherein Virginia had precisely zero players named to either the First, Second, Third, All-Defense, or All-Freshman teams. Given this, you would think UVA had finished dead last in the conference, but no. That would be Wake Forest, and even they have one man in Travis McKie. Since the all-conference accolades were announced, there's been a lot of buzz by UVA fans that Cavalier freshman Joe Harris was snubbed by the 75 voting members of the media.

There's no doubt that Harris has been nothing short of a savior this season for a Virginia squad that spent much of this year with injured players, an anemic offense, and an unsettled starting rotation. Certainly, Harris has earned his spot in that rotation at Virginia. But the question is, is he All-ACC caliber?

Some of his numbers are certainly impressive. Harris has risen to second in the UVA annals for three pointers made by a freshman, at 64, behind only Virginia great Curtis Staples (who went on to hit 413 threes over his career). Former Cavalier Sean Singletary had just 34 his freshman year.

How does that compare to the rest of the ACC? This season, Harris leads all the ACC freshmen in three pointers made. Here's what the ACC All-Freshman Team looks like

School Player Position 3PM-3PA
North Carolina Harrison Barnes F 45-140
Wake Forest Travis McKie F 17-55
North Carolina Kendall Marshall G 13-34
Maryland Terrell Stoglin G 33-90
N.C. State CJ Leslie F 7-28

By comparison, Harris went 64-154, and for those of you doing some quick math at home, that is a 41.6% three-point field goal percentage. And yes, that is indeed the best out of any current ACC freshman, and puts him fourth-best of any class year in the conference. In fact, 41.6% puts him better than any other ACC freshman since 2000.

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The slate of freshmen that were chosen have all had impressive seasons. When I started writing this post today, I thought the answer I'd come up with would be in the negative. I had a hard time believing that Harris, who can be a little slow and stiff on the court, could compare with the five freshmen who received the honor. After taking a look again, I think I'm back on the fence. Here's a look at the stats:

Player PPG APG RPG BPG
Harrison Barnes 14.1 1.4 5.6 0.4
Travis McKie 12.9 1.0 7.6 1.0
Kendall Marshall 5.9 5.6 1.8 0
Terrell Stoglin 11.6 3.3 1.3 0.1
C.J. Leslie 11.2 0.8 7.1 1.3
Joe Harris 10.6 1.2 4.3 0.4

Harris, while certainly comparable with the competition, looks like he's just shy of their numbers, with the exception perhaps of Marshall, a true point guard. Marshall has an assist-to-turnover ratio of 2.51 -- second-best in the league. Harris's is 0.75.

It's obviously a bit tough to make a fully educated vote on this, considering most media will (a) watch their own team play and (b) to the extent they're watching another ACC team, it'll likely be Duke or Carolina. So a lot of this likely came down to looking at the numbers and trying to make a semi-educated guess from there.

By the way, each of the All-Freshman members were recognized as ACC Rookie of the Week three times this season, except for Maryland's Stoglin, who was recognized twice near the end of the season (Feb 21, 28). Harris never earned these honors.

There's no magic formula to figure out who the "best" rookie is. Is it the one who produced the top conference numbers? If so, Harris might not belong on that list. Is it the one who proved to be most valuable to their team? If so, Harris deserved serious consideration, as Virginia likely would not have finished close to a 7-9 record without his contributions (whereas Carolina without Marshall or N.C. State without Leslie may still have had similar results).

So what do you think? Was Joe Harris of Virginia snubbed of ACC All-Rookie honors, and if so, who does he replace? Or was the competition simply to stiff? Leave your comments below.

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Duh....WINNING

Not only was he snubbed from the All-ACC Freshman team he was snubbed from the FIRST TEAM ALL-ACC, Player of the Year Honors, AND THE NOBEL PRIZE!

by Will Campbell on Mar 8, 2011 2:41 PM EST reply actions  

No

I like Joe and am excited about Joe’s future here, but snubbed? Don’t see it. I guess it partly comes down to how you view things, but overall, I think there’s probably 1 guy that you can argue for Joe going ahead of. Overall, I think these teams should lean more towards productivity.

North Carolina without Kendall Marshall is no where near a top 2 line team, which they are likely to be as of now. His ascension to the starting role dramatically changed their season, giving them stability. He’s shown himself to be a smart playmaker who can dish it out, and I think his scoring will come. True, UNC likely would’ve made the tourny anyways, as the players needed time to gel, but Marshall pushed them from a middle of the pack, somewhere from the 5 to 12 seed range, to a potentially elite team.

Harrison Barnes really came on strong as the season finished. I think Marshall’s had a bigger impact on the team than Barnes, but without a wing finisher like Barnes to give them some balance with their post guys, they would’ve had more issue.

I could see some arguments against Leslie, as he was on a weak team that had a good player on it for him to play off of, but still, Leslie did as expected and was strong on the glass. I don’t have an issue with him ahead of Harris, and Leslie, if he doesn’t leave early (and I’m not sure his NBA potential is that high that he would bolt before, say, his junior year), should be a solid post-player in the ACC for several years.

I guess I could see some arguments against McKie, but he was a very good wing on a bad team. Certainly, being on a bad team gave him opportunities, but boy, he has a sweet all-around wing game, and if he improves his long range shooting, he could be really, really good. I’ve got no issues here.

If there is one guy that I might have an issue with, it’d be Terrell Stoglin ahead of Harris. Even then, I don’t have a big enough problem with it. On the plus side is that he gave Maryland a bit better point stability. On the flip side, he turned the ball over too much, and he’s more of a scoring point, so it’s not as if he dramatically changed the fortunes of that squad.

I mean, I like Joe, but I don’t think he was snubbed.

by toonsterwu on Mar 9, 2011 1:43 AM EST reply actions  

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